Christina (Margaretha?) and Johann Philipp Pirmann

Christina and Johann Philipp Pirmann married some time in or before 1777. In one of their children's christening records, she's referred to a Christina Margaretha, but I have no further information about her. Johann Philipp was the son of Maria Christina Apresch and Johann Reichart Pirmann born 25 Feb 1757 and christened in Freinsheim 27 Feb 1757.

Christina and Johann Philipp had at least ten children, all christened in Freinsheim. One of them died young:

• Eva Margaretha born 03 Jan 1777, christened 04 Jan 1777;
• Reichart born 28 Jan 1780, christened the same day;
• Lenora Magdalena born 02 Jun 1781, christened the same day;
• Christina born 08 Apr 1784, christened the same day;
• Unnamed child christened 24 Jul 1785. The mother's name is given as Christina Margaretha;
• Johann Georg born 08 Apr 1788, christened 09 Apr 1788;
• Juliana born 24 Feb 1791, christened 25 Feb 1791. Deceased by February 1794;
• Margaretha born 03 Jun 1792, christened 04 Jun 1792;
• Juliana born 11 Feb 1794, christened 12 Feb 1794; and
• Anna Maria born 03 Sep 1796, christened 04 Sep 1796.

Is This "Our" Johann Philipp Pirmann?

A man named Johann Philipp Pirmann died and was buried in Freinsheim 06 Mar 1828. Volume 11 of the Intelligenzblatt des Rheinkreises includes a legal notice published 19 Jul 1828 announcing the house- and goods-auction of the property of the late Johann Philipp Pirmann, a farmer in Freinsheim. The property consisted of a dwelling-house along with equipment by the Eisentor in Freinsheim and 151 ares of arable land and vinyards in seven parcels. Altogether it was valued at 2,830 florins.

Johann Philipp's beneficiaries and their representatives were as follows:

• Herrn ("Mr") Franz Joseph Jene, land owner in Freinsheim, Bevollmächtigter ("plenipotentiary") of Johannes Pirmann, without a trade, staying in the public poorhouse in Frankenthal;
• Frau ("Mrs") Eve Margareth Pirmann, without a trade, residing in Freinsheim, both in her own name and as Bevollmächtigter for her sister Magdalena Pirmann and [Magdalena's] husband Georg Ningler, without a trade, both resident in Darmstadt;
• Martin Culmann, tailor in Lambsheim, in the capacity of natural guardian for Johannes Culmann, child of Martin and the late Anne Marie Pirmann, without trade and resident with Martin;
• Adolph Pirmann, farmer in Freinsheim, both in his own name and in the capacity of secondary guardian for the aforenamed minor.

Note that Herrn Franz Joseph Jene and Frau Eve Margareth Pirmann are apparently the only ones who rate titles.

If the deceased is "our" Johann Philipp Pirmann, then five of his children appear to have died without issue by 1828: Reichart born 1780, Christina born 1784, Johann Georg born 1788, Margaretha born 1792 and Juliana born 1794. I haven't found any likely death records. There's a Margaretha Pirmann, wife of Jacob Pirmann, who died and was buried in Freinsheim 24 Jun 1816. However, if this is Margaretha born 1792, there ought to be a Jacob Pirmann born 1777-1797, and I can't find one.

There are also two children mentioned in the legal notice for whom I don't have specific birth records, Johannes and Adolph. Johannes might be the unnamed child born 1785 or he might have been born after September 1798. Adolph was almost certainly born between October 1798 and 1806.

The legal notice mentions two married couples. The first is Magdalena Pirmann and Georg Ningler of Darmstadt. Johann Georg Ningler, son of Anna Catharina Hirsch and Johann Wilhelm Ningler, was born 27 Feb 1785 and christened in Darmstadt 01 Mar 1785. I haven't found a record for his marriage to Magdalena Pirmann, but they may have a had a daughter Catharine Elisabeth who died in Darmstadt 07 Mar 1816 at less than a year of age. They definitely had a son Johann Balthasar born 09 Mar 1817 and christened in Darmstadt 13 Mar 1817. Johann Georg died in Darmstadt 15 Mar 1834. Magdalena died and was buried in Freinsheim 06 Mar 1854.

If Johann Georg's wife Magdalena was Lenora Magdalena born 1781, she would have been four years older than her husband, but that wouldn't have been unusual.

I have less information about the other married couple, Anne Marie Pirmann and Martin Culmann or Kullmann. They married in Freinsheim 23 May 1825, but I don't have any information about the birth of their son Johannes, Anne Marie's death or what happened to Martin and Johannes after 1828. It's certainly possible that Anne Marie could be Anna Maria born 1796.

If Frau Eve Margareth Pirmann is Eva Margaretha born 1777, she appears to be unmarried at 51 - she's not identified as anyone's wife or widow. She may or may not have married Peter Ahl subsequently. There was an Eva Margaretha Pirmann, wife of Peter Ahl, who died and was buried in Freinsheim 14 Feb 1841. I can't find an likely records for Peter Ahl at all, so I have no idea how old this couple was.

Adolph is pretty definitely the Johann Adolph Pirmann who married Anna Christina Hohl in Freinsheim 02 Dec 1824.

I have no further information on Johannes.

The fact that neither Juliana born 1794 nor any children born by her are not named in the legal notice implies that she's definitely not the Juliana Pirmann who married Georg Jacob Stocke. Georg Jacob's wife died and was buried in Freinsheim 14 Sep 1822, but she left at least four children who were still alive in 1838.

But What If He's Not?

There was another Johann Philipp Pirmann in Freinsheim during this period. Juliana Fett and Johann Henrich Pirmann had a son named Johann Philipp born 14 Aug 1784 and christened in Freinsheim 15 Aug 1784. However, I'm fairly sure he's not the Johann Philipp who died in 1828. The key here is Magdalena Pirmann, who married Georg Ningler and definitely had a son born in 1817, possibly a daughter in 1815-1816. She has to have been born by 1801 at the very latest, and that's pushing it. It's more likely she was born before 1793. But Juliana and Johann Henrich's son would have been nine years old in 1793, still only 17 in 1801. He's too young.